The Words of Hyo Jin Moon


Hyo Jin Moon
January 21, 2007
7:00 am

Here are my notes from Hyo-Jin-nimís speech Sunday 14 January 2007. My ability to convey what was actually said is limited. These, at most, convey some sense of what Hyo-Jin-nim said and are not a verbatim record. Hyo-Jin-nimís website is: To see two of the projects that Hyo-Jin-nim is working on log on to: and

Joe Kinney

(Today is Hyo-Jin-nimís birthday by lunar calendar. Also Hyo-Jin-nimís wife gave birth to a son Shin-Jin-nim last Friday 19 Jan evening. Two cakes were prepared on a table next to the stage.
Rev. Andrew Compton is the MC. All welcome Hyo-Jin-nim and offer a bow.
Hyo-Jin-nim bows to the audience as he approaches the stage. He places a small notebook on the podium; Hyo-Jin-nim cuts the cakes and receives flowers and a present from National Interfaith Leadership Training Program, whose members attend every Sunday, and a card signed by most of those attending before he speaks. We all sang Happy Birthday twice.

Thank you.

Please sit down.

Thank you for the cake and the present and for the flowers.

This was unexpected. He came out a month early. I guess he wanted to come out.

Heíll be coming home today. He is healthy and my wife is OK.

So thank you.

So today ... I see some faces that I havenít seen for a while. (One of Hyo-Jin-nimís former band members and their family attended the speech today.)

Living in New York City is rather interesting.

Do you like big cities? When you see the people living in big cities they kind of have an attitude donít they? I guess could say that it is kind of confident or to get right to the point, theyíre a little cocky. This attitude is almost a prerequisite for survival in a dog-eat-dog world. You have to be arrogant; you have to have that kind of presence; you have to have that kind of pride and also project a strong sense of self importance just to get recognized.

Itís almost like the big city environment provokes you whether you want it or not to have and present that kind of attitude and personification. You have to ask yourself if that is healthy. What happens to people when they actually live in that kind of mode? What kind of transformation will happen because you will be transformed based on what you are, what you think, what you want to think, what you want to be whether you like it or not. You will process the growth and you will change into that whether you like it or not. So you have to ask your self: Is that good? If thatís not good, if thatís the only way I guess you canít stop and we have to live with the consequences. But if it is not good then how do you stop it? Thatís the question. If we donít address that kind of question and focus on the solution that we can all agree on, itís very difficult.

The challenge in ourselves in challenges that lie ahead in what we need to do, in our mission, dealing with those areas and that kind of arrogance will be a problem area and itís growing faster than any other time in history. Every big city will have that problem. It will start itself with some idealism, but it will change because of the nature of what you have to be to survive in that competitive setting.

It will change you. That modern big city life will change you. The problem, especially in China, is that the big cities are growing up, popping out, every few years. It will become the number one import and exporting country in the world in a few years. Germany is number one; America is second and China is third right now and it will overtake America and Germany.

Thatís the problem, and how do we address even the problems that we have now. Think about it.

To me, arrogance is stupidity. Stupid people are people who are in a state of stupor, right? Their senses are dulled. They feel numb to all sorts of stuff. You live in todayís world and are sensitized with things in life. Sometimes you have to question whether that is right or wrong. Many times when you start to think morally and ethically you question pretty much everything that is stimulating your senses, that is titillating out there. Thatís what youíre bombarded with on a daily basis. It is overwhelming and you are getting desensitized to that reality.

Weíre being stupefied every single way with things that are supposed to educate you, and stimulate you, to be a better person, but itís actually doing the opposite. Why? The great excuse is that Corporations have to make money. This is the land of the free and the land of capitalism. In this society you have the right to pursue opportunity. Opportunity means wealth and whatever, personal gratification.

When that aspect, especially personal gratification, is not defined properly it becomes very dangerous. We do have a problem with religion in itself because the values that religion should uphold as sacred and absolute... Regardless of what religion it is, there has to be some absolutes that are equal to the primary absolutes, the laws of God PHYSICS! But even that is unstable. There is no clarification in some religions. Thatís the problem.

There are many issues that need to be solved. We still have the basic problem. And how do you go about changing that when the world is becoming more stupefied?

We have to go to the very essence of who we are, starting as a child, we want to learn. We have to bring that back. And how do you go about doing that? Itís extremely challenging and it's extremely difficult. You have to really create a creative environment that is so overwhelmingly rich, productive, creative that it provokes you enough that youíre enraptured by it to the point where you want to learn; you want to start to learn again.

Other wise it will never change. It will only decay further. How do you provoke the arrogant culture into wanting to learn again? How do you restart the need for growth? How do you stimulate that? Thatís the question that we need to ask. We must find the solution there.

You canít force people to change. You canít force people to learn something when they donít want to learn. How do you go about doing that? Can you create some kind of art or entertainment that is so rich, so high in standard and quality, that you know that people will change just by being part of it, just by being in the presence of it? Can that be done? I will be extremely challenging.

Can you find a truth where it is so evident just by hearing it that you can clarify many, many things that you might be questioning about life itself, and the purpose you are in terms of your existence?

If we can find something like that it would be very provocative, wouldnít it? Even in the minds of arrogant people Iíve seen it all. Iíve been there. Iíve done that, jaded to the hilt. Iím sure that you can open the door again of wanting to learn more. Because onceÖ

No matter how arrogant you are. No matter how confident you are to put it nicely, if you can see a greater quality. If something is presented to you and you can see the quality. This is something. The quality of it is better than what Iíve got. Thatís a stimulation, no matter how arrogant you are.

Being able to present that case, that moment of one who is arrogant making that change is difficult because you need to present it. It has to be real to that person. It has to tough them in a real way physically, mentally. I donít know if that person will understand spirit yet, but at least that is a challenge. We must do that and it will take a collective effort, not just one manís genius, because everything in the world stands on the shoulder of something, ultimately God, right?

How can you be arrogant to begin with because you can never be satisfied if you live a creative life, even a religious life, because contentment is a killer? Even in the world of art you are only as good as the last one that you did and you have to keep it coming. You can never be content. You can never be satisfied because it is suicide. It is a suicide position. It is a suicide action actually if that is the chosen path that you are taking. You canít survive. You canít compete. Youíre dead by your own self admission.

You can never be satisfied. You have to want more, more, more. Thatís reality. Why, because God is like that. Donít you want to emulate him? Do you want to imitate Him or do you want to emulate Him? I donít know. (Laughter) Or do you want to be Him? Oh Boy! I donít know about that. (Laughter)

And when Father says up to twelve, up to 35 years, you have to symbolically rebuild creation. The number six he owns and the number seven. The other five days. He does think numerically five times seven is thirty five years. Maybe perhaps then youíll reestablish his name around the world substantially, not symbolically. I believe it will take ten generations or more. It canít happen thatÖ

Look. People come. A lot of people come and they put their hands out for all sorts of reasons. You canít trust politicians, period. Right? How can you trust those guys? Some religious people, I question them. It is very difficult. I know that a lot of people come, especially when you present it in a certain way, they do come expecting something. Thatís not good. Thatís not how you transform people. Thatís not how you change the world.

It might have some symbolic sense. It might have some temporary applicational effect to galvanize people to do something more. But eventually what is that? Members fundraise and you spend it on what?

Having that kind of leverage that we need for a twenty-first century church, because multimedia is the way of twenty-first century ecumenism, its going to take time to develop that stuff.

More importantly we need to develop our own people. You canít just use hired guns. It will never work. It will never work in any case, in any situation, in any organization. In any system it will not work. Money is never a solution, nor power, never.

The only way to motivate people, like I said last week, is either you do it with money or sacrifice. Thatís the only way. Money is always a temporary measure. The long-term thing is always sacrifice. Iíll sacrifice more than you. Thatís the only way. Iíll do better than you. Iíll show you a greater product. Thatís the only way to motivate. If you motivate the person that way it lasts MUCH longer than money! Trust me, thatís the only way to do it.

We need our people who... There are so many ways in which you can become valuable, if youíre good at research or even art or whatever. Even if you donít have an outgoing personality there are many, many ways that you can be invaluable in that system, because we need to compete that way to survive. Thatís the only way. I sincerely believe this.

Iíve been saying it for a long time and I believe it with all my heart and this is how Iím going to go out. There is no other way.

Please if you want to put anything into stupor, put your arrogance into it.

Take care of your self.

Iíll see you next week.

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